Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB)

The entry Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB) carries its former name right in the title. That's exactly what teaches you how a company name change splits archives and search results.

Also known as: Vy · Vygruppen · NSB

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NSB

Former name in the entry title

AS

Norwegian legal form

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Name eras in archives and captions

Key takeaways

  • The entry names its own former name – NSB appears as "formerly" in the title and is thereby a documented part of the name.
  • A company name change splits archives: the same thing sits under two search terms, often decades apart.
  • Vehicle markings lag behind name changes – that's normal, and it makes photos datable.
  • The name element "gruppen" simply means "the group" and describes a collective term, not a business area.
  • Keep both names when you're collecting – search for only one and you lose half the record.
Contents
  1. 1.What is Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB)?
  2. 2.A name change splits the archive
  3. 3.What you’ll find under which search term
  4. 4.Vehicles that have lived through two name eras
  5. 5.Building an archive that survives renaming
  6. 6.Where you’ll still come across the old name today
  7. 7.Common mix-ups
  8. 8.Verdict

Fact file

Legal formAS – aksjeselskap, a Norwegian limited company
Name element"gruppen" – Norwegian for "the group", a collective name
Former nameNSB – explicitly listed in the entry title as "formerly"
Business areacannot be clearly derived from a group name – listed here as a mixed entry
Entry listed underNorway (NO)

How to recognise this operator

Is this really Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB)?

Tick off everything that applies to the train you are looking at right now.

  • The entry title explicitly states the former name NSB as well
  • The name element gruppen means "the group" and describes a collective name
  • Vehicles can carry markings from different name eras
  • Vehicle databases carry the combination NSB/Vy in class designations
  • The country code NO- before the keeper marking on Norwegian-registered vehicles
  • Old photos and forum posts use different names depending on when they were made

Updated: August 2026 – Some database entries carry their own research trap right in the title. Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB) is one of them: the name itself states that the same company used to go by a different designation. Ignore that, and every search turns up only half the material – and which half is missing keeps changing.

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What is Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB)?

This entry stands for a Norwegian company that this database lists under two name eras: today’s name and the abbreviation NSB used previously. The legal form AS is the Norwegian limited company, and the name element gruppen simply means “the group” in Norwegian – a collective term, not a business area. As an organisation, the Norwegian state railway is profiled under Vy (formerly NSB) in the company overview.

That’s exactly why this entry is treated here as a mixed entry: no single service area can be derived from a group name, and any narrower attribution would be a claim we can’t back up. What the entry does deliver reliably, though, is a practical lesson about company name changes – one that applies well beyond Norway.

The addition is a search aid

Bracketed additions like "formerly" aren't part of the company name, but a bridge between the old and new record. They ensure that someone captioning a photo from twenty years ago finds the same entry as someone reporting a sighting today.

A name change splits the archive

Railway photography is a long-term project. Pictures, notes and forum posts get made over decades – and every document carries the name that was current when it was made. When a company changes its name, there’s no clean cut, but a broad transition zone: newer sources use the new name, older ones the old one, and in between lie years where both appear side by side.

Collect both terms

Build a term list for every piece of research – here: the current name and the former abbreviation. Search for only one, and you'll systematically miss material.

Date a source by its name form

Whichever name appears in a caption roughly tells you which era it's from – a first dating clue without any date at all.

Note the vehicle markings separately

What's written on the vehicle is an observation. Which company you attribute it to is a conclusion. Two fields, two kinds of truth.

Allow for a transition period

Count on old and new markings running side by side for long stretches of time – that's exactly where the most interesting pictures come from.

What you’ll find under which search term

Search term Typical find What you do with it
Current name recent sightings and photos check the current state
Former abbreviation older photos, forum posts, vehicle lists gain historical depth
Both names combined vehicle and class lists track vehicles across eras
Vehicle number alone everything, regardless of company name the most reliable search there is
Place name plus year sightings at one location reconstruct a location’s history

The last row holds the real lesson: the vehicle number survives every name change. Note it down consistently, and you can still identify a sighting even once companies, brands and liveries have long since changed. Product brands are a different case, such as Flåmsbana, which stays stable for decades regardless of corporate names. Our guide to identifying classes explains how it’s built and how to identify vehicles systematically.

Sightings that survive a name change

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Vehicles that have lived through two name eras

A look at the class database shows the effect immediately: vehicle families such as the El 18 or the tilting train BM70 “Signatur” carry a double designation made up of the old and new name. Others, such as the El 17, carry only one of the two forms.

That’s not a formatting error but established practice: vehicles outlast company names. A locomotive running both before and after a name change has to stay findable under both terms – otherwise the research trail breaks exactly where it gets interesting.

In practice at the lineside, that leads to a simple rule: photograph the markings, not just the vehicle. A close-up of the data panel area will later answer questions that don’t even occur to you at the moment of the sighting.

Building an archive that survives renaming

File your photos and notes by company name, and you build an archive that becomes useless with the next name change. A more robust structure builds on unchanging features and carries the name only as an extra field.

Is your archive name-change proof?

Tick off what applies to your filing system – with four ticks or more, it will survive any rebranding.

  • Vehicle number is the primary sorting key, not the company name
  • Date and place are recorded with every entry
  • The observed markings are recorded separately from the attributed company
  • Former names are stored as search terms
  • Uncertain attributions are flagged as uncertain
  • Close-up photos of the markings exist

Our piece on building a photo archive describes how to set up such a system from scratch; the guide to keeping a sightings log explains ongoing recording. Anyone wanting to practise the effect on further Norwegian entries will find, in this database, CargoNet, the tourist-oriented Flåm Utvikling (Flåmsbana), and the separate entry Vy Tog.

Where you’ll still come across the old name today

A former company name doesn’t vanish from the network the day the rebranding happens. It lingers in places no one thinks of at first – and that’s exactly where a closer look pays off.

Most often it’s vehicles whose relettering is still pending or only partly done: new lettering on the front, old on the side, or the other way round. Equally typical are lower-priority vehicles that visit the workshop less often – service vehicles, stabled units, or wagons held in reserve. Old lettering also clings on stubbornly at fixed installations: on buildings, signs, ticket offices and signage that no one renews purely for appearance’s sake.

For documentation, every one of these observations is valuable, because it captures a state that’s due to disappear on schedule. A photo of a half-relettered locomotive will, in five years, be a source that doesn’t exist a second time. What matters is a sober description: note what you actually see – “old markings on the side, new on the front” – rather than turning that into a claim about timing or process.

Anyone out regularly is best off keeping a short list of such find-spots. It costs nothing, and it means that on your next visit you deliberately check whether anything has changed. Repeat shots like these build up into a series over time – and series are far more valuable to an archive than single pictures.

Common mix-ups

  • Old name equals outdated information – sources under the former name aren’t wrong, just historical.
  • New company name equals new vehicles – renaming and vehicle procurement have nothing to do with each other.
  • Same name stem equals same company – entries with similar names prove neither identity nor difference.
  • Double designation equals error – spellings like “NSB/Vy” in vehicle lists are deliberate, not careless.
  • Markings equal current status – vehicles often keep carrying old lettering for years.

Verdict

For railway enthusiasts, a company name change isn’t an annoyance but a dating aid. Know both names, search for both, and document both separately, and you can bring material from different decades together instead of losing it.

In short

The former name NSB is in the entry title for a reason: it's the second key to the archive. Always search under both names – and organise your own collection by the vehicle number, which knows no name change.

Your logbook outlasts every rebranding

Record number, markings and place separately – so every sighting stays usable for good.

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Summary

  • Vy (Vygruppen AS, formerly NSB) is a Norwegian entry carrying two name eras in a single title.
  • For research and archive work, both names are equally necessary search terms.
  • The name form used in a source helps you roughly date when it was made.
  • This database also has a separate entry for Vy Tog AS – the name says nothing about how they relate to each other.

Frequently asked questions

What does the "formerly NSB" addition in the entry title mean?

It indicates that this company used to go by the name NSB. Additions like this are common in databases so that older sources stay findable. It says nothing about when the change happened, why, or any corporate-law process behind it – it's a search aid, not a chronicle.

Why does a name change even matter to railfans?

Because it splits the record. Photos, forum posts, captions and vehicle lists all carry the name current at the time they were made. Search only under the current name, and you'll miss the older half of the material – and vice versa. Complete research needs both terms.

What does "gruppen" mean in Norwegian?

It's the definite form of "gruppe", so "the group". Norwegian attaches the definite article to the end of the word, similar to Swedish and Danish. A collective name like this says nothing about a single business area – which is exactly why this entry is deliberately treated here as a mixed entry.

Do vehicles always carry the current company name?

No, and that's the norm rather than the exception. Relettering costs time and money and usually happens during a workshop visit that's already scheduled for other reasons. That's why, after a name change, vehicles keep running with old markings for long periods – valuable witnesses to their time for any archive.

How do I date a photo from the name on it?

The name on the vehicle only gives you a rough lower bound: a picture with the old markings could be from the old era – or from the transition period afterwards. It gets more reliable combined with other features, such as the surroundings, platform fittings, or other vehicles in the shot.

Is Vy the same as Vy Tog AS?

This page makes no claim either way. Both exist in the database as separate entries with a shared name stem. Whether and how they're connected under company law can't be worked out from a name – anyone who needs to know for certain requires register data, not vehicle observation.

How should I record both names in my own collection?

Best in separate fields: one field for what was actually on the vehicle, another for the attribution you draw from it. That way the observation stays permanently correct, even as names keep changing – and you can later filter by both terms.

Why do class lists carry designations like NSB/Vy?

Because vehicle designations outlive company names. When a vehicle family stays in service across a name change, databases often carry both forms side by side. That's not sloppiness, but a deliberate attempt to stay findable under both search terms.

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